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Iraq looks like Vietnam without water

Popular Videos – Bill Crandell was an infantry platoon leader in Vietnam in 1967, was injured and by 1968 was one of the organizers of Vietnam Veterans of America. He delivered the opening statement at Winter Solider Vietnam.

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The press was actively suppressing information, even back as far as the 1970's and 60's. Over 1800 days have passed and the solution is no closer than when the occupation started.

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Do you remember the Smothers Brothers Show? (Speaking of censorhsip.) We have come a long way since then; its worse now!

The businsess of war has become institutionaized. The selling of war, the funding of war, and the excuses for war have become an American tradition.

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Readiness for endless war

Politics â;; The American political class has drawn all the wrong conclusions from the end of the Cold War and the breakup of the Soviet Union. Permanent global hegemony just did not happen. Frustration and craving for revenge have become main drivers of US policies. September 11 focused their common dysfunctionality, but they are not its root cause.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/03/10/...

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American Empire Comes At A Very High Price

Politics â;; Not one of the remaining political candidates -- not Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, much less John McCain -- talks about significantly downsizing the military-industrial complex and decreasing our military footprint around the world. Superpowers are darned expensive, and the United States simply doesn't have the money for all that anymore.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/03/10/...

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The casualty rate in Iraq is infinitely smaller than that of Vietnam, where I believe an Average of 200 U.S. casualties occurred daily. What is similar is that the same tired, old, burned-out, drug-infused hippies from the 60s have come out of hiding so they can sing Kumbaya one last time before they go on life support.

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Kumbaya dude!

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Well as usual you need to check your facts vs pulling them out of thin air. In Nam if you were shot and hten later died outside of theater from your wounds, you were counted as a casualty. In Iraq if your shot and flow out to Germany for treatment but die there or in transit well you're not a casualty of the war then.

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BUT BUT BUT Betrayus er I mean petraeus says hte surge is working and the Iraqis are throwing candy and flowers at ther troops like the Republicans said they would

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There were no exit plans when Bush had the first troops deployed, even into Afghanistan.

My husband said then, this will be another Vietnam, and he was right. Smart man, my hubby!

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They didn't want exit plans ---- Halliburton, Blackwater, etc. would not be able to bet No Bid contracts. They didn't care!

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There WERE exit plans ..... exit through Iran. Stay tuned, we just haven't gotten there yet; plenty more $$$ to be made off of Iraq.

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Not only no exit but an on going battle that will escalate into the invasion of Iran. Oil is the the target and the reason.

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They are idiots who think war is profittable. They simply don't realize that they will pay one day. I bet they are counting on the last minute change of heart to get them to heaven.

Fools God is smarter than them.

I'm sure he is looking at all the carnage and just weeping for all the horrors of man. He will not be patient forever.

His anger will be felt and it will not be good.

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jovial:

Good story.

I love what the gentleman said. When he stated that most who criticized the returning vets thought we didn't fight hard enough. We fought damn hard it was our lives at stake as well as our friends lives. We wanted to win the damn war. They didn't let us.

General Waste More Men and his ilk sacrficed us for the political powers that were as well as the corporate coffers.

Bush is just as bad if not worse he has Vietnam as an example of poor leadership and yet continues to follow his warped and murderous plans.

He will one day have to pay. As will all who murder men in the name of profits. Hope he feels it is worth it then.

Going to be mighty hot and dark, but I'm sure he'll see his misery alright.

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Amen brother.

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"Vengence is mine, thus sayeth...". I can't be appeased by a judicious afterlife. I'm cynical enough to know zebras don't change their stripes, but we can call them by their stripes. Is it that snakes have grown legs and now walk among men? If we can't tell them because they no longer slither, then look at the book and know the fool for what he is. This AntiChrist is the archtypical example. Not a killer for a passion, or religious zeal, but a cold butcher for mammon.

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This war was all about oil & getting even for daddy...that is the truly sad truth. G.W.B. is no better than Hitler, and certainly less intelligent.

Actually war use to be profitable. 40 years ago our economy would have been booming if we were in a war. Sadly not only did we get go to war for the wrong reason, (Revenge-Oil-Money) we also are in worse financial shape than the war began!

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This is an incredible exaggeration and an understatement of the horrors of the Nazi Regime. I can think of 6 million Jews and another 6 million non-Jews who would take issue with that assertion, if they were here.

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He didn't say he was as prolific, just no better.

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Wrong on both counts.

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Hey Dropkick,

I would normally respond to you, because "hey" I love a good debate as much as the next guy. But then I looked at your name. I decided anybody as bias and undeveloped as yourself wouldn't be able to stumble on what I wanted to share.

It is quite possibly time for you to put away the thesaurus mommy bought you for Christmas & move out of her basement.

I cannot comprehend why people you have insulted on here haven't concluded as I have when it comes to your pseudo intelligence. Not to mention your total bigotry to anyone who dares not to agree with you.

I would tell you to act your age, however mentally I am sure you are already doing so.

Please feel free to insult some more to TRY and make yourself more relevant than you truly will ever be.

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Apart from ignorant and inaccurate insults, you've managed to write a post of substantial length but devoid of actual meaningful content. So I'm a bigot because I call someone out for downgrading the significance of the Holocaust? Typical Lib bass-ackwards logic. Get a job!

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Actually you're a bigot because that was probably how you were raised. As far as substantial length I think you know nothing of that issue & It's probably why you are so angry at everyone.

I never downgraded the Holocaust, that is where your ignorance raises it's ugly head. What I said was: G.W.B. was no better than Hitler. It is not an exaggeration: They are both power hungry terrorist that torture P.O.W.s and lied to the people of their country....That is a fact! A word you know very little if anything about.

It would be easy for you if I were a lib huh. Sorry pal I am neither Lib or Neocon. I am just someone who can actually THINK with out being Affiliated with a political party.

Oh and by the way, I have a job which is why you won't usually see me post during the day....when I am at work. Unlike yourself who seems to have nothing do to all day except to insult people, show your @ss, or yell at your Mama to bring you another p.b.j.

Get a Life Putz!

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